A Technology Sufficiently Advanced Is Indistinguishable From Magic

In some ways this post will begin my attempt at a unification theory of Christianity, Eschatology, Technology, Education, Healthcare, Control, Power and what is less-politely known as Conspiracy Theory.  In simple terms it can be stated “Everything is a Business Model.”

Please forgive the denseness of this post.

I’ll start with a documentary that is absolutely a must-see, based in part on research I did for the circles within circles essay.  I was first acquainted with this subject in 1997 by an author named William Lyne, who had written a book called “Space Aliens From The Pentagon.”  That book pissed in the soup for everyone on either side of the UFO discussion and everybody hated on Lyne.  I believe that by being at the right place at the right time he was exposed to information and made observations that caused him to form his hypothesis:  Tesla invented the technology that allows an anti-gravity propulsion system, the Nazi’s got hold of it and were building such machines at the end of WWII, Operation Paperclip brought many of those scientists to the US where they were installed out at Los Alamos and the US began building them in secret.  Naturally all the first UFO sightings began in the area surrounding Los Alamos.   (Lyne’s book is available online for those with skilz and interest)  Now, it appears Bill Lyne has been vindicated, at least partially:

I observe the following:

The video makes a good case these craft exist, are being manufactured by major defense contractors in “black ops” and have been for decades.

The technology that allows them to fly turns our current understanding of electricity and physics on its head.  At the heart of this is our understanding of how our world really works and the resistance of the “experts” to consider the possibility they might just be wrong.  This would effect our understanding of chemistry and thus biology as well, with the potential to disrupt virtually everything.

At the heart of the technology is Zero-Point energy, which can be weaponized to control weather, trigger earthquakes and volcano’s, cause explosions remotely and other effects that sound like they’re out of a science fiction novel.

Private Zero-Point energy (ZPE) research has been suppressed, repeatedly, with a number of major researchers killed.  As the video points out, after making that documentary the producer died of an extremely fast-acting cancer and his autopsy indicated extremely high levels of rare and very toxic heavy metals, but normal levels of lead and mercury.

As the video points out, ZPE would be a radically disruptive technology and energy corporations (along with those corporations with major investments in energy) would be relegated to the status of buggy-whip manufacturers.

What the video does not mention, but which should be obvious, is the countries that receive any significant amount of national income from oil exports will be hurt.  The countries that receive the majority of their national income from oil exports will be devastated.   Obviously the Middle East countries would be hurt, badly, but sub-Saharan Africa would get killed as well.

There’s one country most people don’t think of, Russia.  Oil and gas exports from the Russian Federation accounted for a whopping 68% of revenues in 2013.  Some 50% of Russia’s federal budget comes from mineral extraction taxes and export customs duties on oil and gas.  It is definitely not in Russia’s national interest to have anything negatively impact its oil and gas sector.

ZPE distributed on a large scale would be a serious threat to the current structure of virtually everything we think of as “life as we know it.”

It is not in the interests of the elite non-governmental actors (the guys behind the scenes) for this to happen, but there is no unified front.  There are factions that compete with each other, often in vicious ways.

It is not in any government’s interest to allow such disruptive technology because of the impact on their national economy.   If such devices can be produced and distributed on a large scale that pull energy from the zero point, who needs power plants, hydro-electric dams, nuclear power plants, coal mines and the list goes on and on.

The societal displacement would be an order of magnitude greater than the disruptions caused by the industrial revolution.


If asked what caused the “great depression” I would not reply with a “what” but rather “who” caused it.  That man’s name was Henry Ford.   The equation is very simple: the millions of automobiles and tractors produced and sold in the 1920’s caused a major shift in agricultural production, because the vehicles and tractors replaced horses, which had to be fed.  Millions of acres of land that were previously devoted to the production of horse fodder got shifted to the production of other agricultural products, with greater efficiency, which resulted in a collapse of wholesale commodities prices.

The drop in farm income (almost 80% of Americans lived on a farm in those days) caused everyone to tighten their belts.  This cessation of spending took down the economy and caused the “great depression” but it was the intervention of the government that made it worse and prolonged it.  That’s a different story.  The point is we’re talking about a disruptive technology that would be really, really disruptive across the board.

So, think about it.  Why would a documentary that’s been effectively suppressed by killing the producer released less than two months ago?  The documentary was finished at the end of 2014.  Well, maybe it took a long time to finish the editing (which was almost done when James Allen was diagnosed with cancer).  But don’t read the next link until after you’ve seen the documentary because the two are tied together.

A special warning on the next article.  It reads like the ravings of a seriously lunatic-fringe wacko nutter.  But it has some important points that need to be discussed.  So, hold your nose (or whatever you have to do) and give it a read.

OK.  What I glean from that is the following:

There has been a change in policy by the folks who are really in control (there are various factions) with respect to the release of information concerning ZPE and it’s no longer being as actively suppressed.  Because that’s what the “alien technology” really boils down to.  The active harassment, silencing and killing of researchers in this area is well documented and the number of organizations and groups with an interest in doing so is large, so don’t hear that as Ye Olde Toad saying “It’s a gubmint conspiracy” because I’m not.

For Christians I make the following observations: 

The Bible describes various ranks and appearances of angels.  The Bible also makes it clear that angels have the ability to appear, be seen, be touched by and communicate with people.  Satan’s followers are fallen angels, so logically demons should also be able to appear, be seen, be touched by and be able to communicate with people.  You know… like aliens from outer space.

From the account of the nephilim in Genesis 6:1-4 it also appears (assuming the “sons of God” mentioned were fallen angels, ergo, demons) that demons have the ability to procreate with the “daughters of men.”

Scripture also talks about multiple levels of the heavens; Revelation 12:7-8 says a war will be fought in the heavens and at the end of that war Satan was cast down along with his demons and no longer able to enter the heavens.

I don’t have any specific Scripture to support this, but my assumption is angels live forever.  The principle assumption is they’ve been around since God created them and their knowledge and understanding of the physical attributes of the world we live in is far greater than ours.

With just those four points, if we assume the “alien technologies” mentioned are simply radically disruptive technologies that have been actively suppressed (except at the government level) and all accounts of alien contact are actually contact with demons, it leaves us with some questions.

People are informed by their experience; in other words, they try to fit what they’re seeing into their own paradigm of understanding.  Various people who claim to know a lot about UFO’s and aliens claim there are different races of aliens, some benevolent, some cold and warlike and others truly evil.  That they have amazing abilities and vastly superior technology.  My thought is since demons have a power structure and ranks and just as angels, have different appearances and different ranks, why can’t we assume all this alien stuff is contact with demons?  And what’s to stop a bunch of demons from playing good cop – bad cop to convince people their story is real?  Isn’t deceiving people what demons are supposed to be good at?

Does it matter if really evil demon-possessed men developed the technologies, or whether lonely geniuses like Tesla did, or whether demons actually appeared and provided other men with the technology?  Really.  Does it matter?  Because we know that evil, satanic men exist and we know demons exist.  I have seen enough evidence that I’m convinced the technologies described exist.

With respect to the technologies, why are we assuming angels and demons are supernatural?  What if only God is supernatural?  I return to Clark’s third law:

“A sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from [the supernatural]”

With respect to mind control and the provable effects of modulated radio frequencies on the brain, wouldn’t demons (who have the power to “possess” someone) know something about that?  Maybe more than we can imagine?  Again, Clark’s third law.

With all that out of the way, what I’m trying to do is solve the challenge of reconciling two seemingly irreconcilable points of view:  Christians and UFO/alien conspiracy theorists.  Because, I can’t see a single major point that cannot be reconciled by definition alone and very few of the minor ones.  Consider Matthew 24:24

“For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect.”

And not to put too fine a point on it, what about Revelation 12:9:

“And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.”

If an “alien invasion” showed up with real “flying saucers” and walking, talking aliens, how many Christians would really struggle with fitting that into their coddled paradigm?  Why would we make the assumptions we make?  Because we are informed by our experience.

I can see it now.

“I think they’re demons trying to deceive us.”

“They can’t be demons, ’cause the Bible doesn’t say anything about demons driving spaceships!  Demons just pop in and out like angels, they don’t need spaceships!”

“Wait a minute.  Wouldn’t you consider aliens arriving in spaceships with a message of peace to be ‘signs and wonders’ designed to deceive even the elect?”

“But you ain’t listening!  The Bible don’t talk about no demons in spaceships!  Mostly demons are invisible, but we can see these things.”

“Ummm, what was it that picked up Elijah and carried him off into the heavens?  Wasn’t that some sort of spacecraft?”

“That’s it!  You’re being divisive and contentious, questioning them in authority over you.  Get out of here you false teacher!”

Go ahead.  Tell me it won’t happen.

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7 Responses to A Technology Sufficiently Advanced Is Indistinguishable From Magic

  1. RichardP says:

    Some loosely-related points that pertain to things said in the article. This response could be extensive, presenting the background to make the following points more obvious. I will keep it cryptic instead, and leave it to the reader to do the research if interested.

    1. The Bible nowwhere makes any mention of fallen angels.

    2. Sheol (Hebrew) > Hades (Greek) > Hell (Old English) > the place where dead people are – the grave. No one will burn in hell. Death and hell (the grave) will be cast into the Lake of Fire, which is the second death. (Revelation 20:14) That verse is in keeping with death being the final enemy to be destroyed (1 Corinthians 15:26)

    3. For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell[a] and committed them to chains[b] of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment; (2 Peter 4)

    Spoken in the past-tense at the time Peter was writting. So, based on that verse, more angels have been punished with exile than those noted in Revelation that are to be cast out with the Great Red Dragon. Note that the word translated as “hell” in that verse is from the Greek word that Peter used – Tartarus. A word taken from Greek mythology. A word that defines a mythological place that didn’t / doesn’t actually exist. Rhetorical: why would Peter tell his followers that God threw sinful angels into a place that did not / does not actually exist?

    The answer to that questions comes from a study of Zoroaster’s influence on the Jews in Babylon (one power controls good, a separate power controls evil, in contrast to Isaiah 45:6-7 and other verses that say both come from God) and the influence of Greek mythology on the writers in and after the intertestamental period. Both of these influences can be seen in writings in the New Testament. At a minimum, the writers would be using words / ideas that their audience was familiar with to get their points across (this is like that).

    4. Satan was walking to and fro on the earth as early as Job’s time (Job 1:6-7). Jacob wrestled with someone he thought was of supernatural origin. Jacob’s ladder showed heavenly beings walking back and forth between heaven and earth. Angels have appeared to various people in the Old and New Testament.

    Note in Point 4 that Peter did not say “For if God did not spare SOME angeles when they sinned …” He made no such distinction, so we can properly infer that he meant ALL angeles who sinned (and presumeably those angels who will sin in the future). Based on this, we are left with a reason to believe that no sinful angels are freely roaming the earth. However, there are other verses that we might use to argue the opposite side. Unfortunately, that opposite side corresponds more closely to the Greek mythology that was well-know in the New Testament period and corresponds less closely with the absence of any such mention of fallen angels roaming the earth in the Old Testament – a book whose writers were not exposed to Greek mythology.

    5. And (Jesus) said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. (Luke 10:18) Note that the verse does not say when Jesus saw Satan fall, which heaven Satan fell from (the Bible describes at least 3 heavens), or where Satan fell to. The context from the surrounding verses provides no help in figuring out these three things.

  2. RichardP says:


    6. In the Book of Revelation, there is a sequence of Woes and a sequence of Angels blowing trumpets. The emphasis here is on sequence: things happen in a specific order, connected
    to the blowing of trumpets. Note that when Revelation 11 happens, the beast is in view. The beast and the anti-christ occur together, in the End Times. Revelation 12 happens after the beast has appeared, so we know that Revelation 12 is happening in the End Times also.

    Revelation 12 describes the great red dragon and his supporters being cast out of heaven. This happens after the death and resurrection of the two witnesses and the appearance of the beast and the war he rages. If we believe the beast hasn’t yet appeared, then we must believe that the great red dragon and his followers have not yet been expelled from heaven.

    ** Read Revelation 11:7-11 [During the Second Woe, after the 6th Angel blows his trumpet.] Describes the death and resurrection of the two witnesses and the beast appearing and waging war.

    ** Read Revelation 12:3-12 [During the Third Woe, after the 7th Angel blows his trumpet]

    3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having
    seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

    4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth:
    and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour
    her child as soon as it was born. (The dragon cast the stars to earth, not God or the angels.)

    Note that Verse 4 describes something different from Verse 9 below. Verse 4 happens
    before the woman gives birth; Verse 9 happens after the woman gives birth. Verses 4 and
    9 describe two separate events. So – who or what are the stars referred to here in Verse 4
    that were cast to earth?)

    5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron:
    and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

    7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon;
    and the dragon fought and his angels,

    8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

    9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which
    deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out
    with him.

    Note that we are not told here, at the point where the dragon is actually cast out of heaven,
    how many angels went with him. The 1/3 number spoken of in Verse 4 is not applied to this
    event, it is applied to the event that takes place in Verse 4 – where the dragon is not being
    cast out of heaven. We know that Verse 4 and Verse 9 are two separate events because
    one happens before the birth, the other happens after.

    7. Who and what exactly is Revelation 12:3-12 talking about at Point 6? Whatever it is, and
    based on the sequence of Angels blowing trumpets, we can conclude that it happens after Satan walked the earth in Job’s time, after Jesus said that he saw Satan fall from heaven, after Satan personally appeared to Jesus to tempt him in the wilderness, after the End-Time beast appears, and after the two witnesses are killed and then raised up on the third day in the End Times.

    If we believe now that the killing of the two witnesses is still in the future, then we must also accept that Revelation 12:9 is still in the future, since it occurs after the witnesses are killed. That is, Satan (if that is who the red dragon is) and his angels have not yet been kicked out of heaven. Therefore, we cannot say that we have been subject now to the consequences of that event – because it hasn’t happened yet. Specifically, Revelation 12:9 has not happened yet. The Red Dragon has not yet been kicked out of heaven.

    On the other hand, if the woman giving birth was Israel giving birth to Christ, then all of this has already happened – including the death and resurrection of the two witnesses and the appearance of the beast and his war.

  3. RichardP says:

    Sorry about the formatting in the second post. AT, any way you could edit it so the formatting is more correct?

  4. Mycroft Jones says:

    Boy, RichardP just loves to post things without engaging in dialog. RichardP I love you, but you are a sanctimonious prick, and you need a thorough ass-kicking.

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  6. nick012000 says:

    Something else that supports the “aliens are demons” theory: Aleister Crowley once opened a magical gateway to summon a demon named Lam, who he conversed with before banishing, and later drew a picture of. You can look it up on the Internet; it has a striking resemblance to the “Grey aliens” of modern popular culture. Then, in 1947, one of Aleister Crowley’s followers, a rocket scientist and Freemason named Jack Parsons, with the assistance of L. Ron Hubbard, the future founder of the Church of Scientology, performed a magical ritual he dubbed the “Babalon Working” to reopen that portal in an attempt at summoning the Whore of Babylon. This ritual was carried out in the desert near the Devil’s Gate Dam in California – a ritual he declared a success when a red-headed woman (Marjorie Cameron) appeared at his house a week later.

    A year and a half later, UFOs crewed by “grey aliens” began appearing.

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